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What do you think the theme of the human army will be?

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« on: May 20, 2011, 03:15:57 pm »

I'm eager to see what kind of take on humans Mantic will take. Based on a couple of assumptions: that the new human army must make good substitutes for WHFB Empire, and that so far, the factions have been analogous to a WHFB faction, I really think that Mantic will for the "landsknecht" (? did I spell that right) theme, but what I'm hoping they'll do is go for a more "English civil war" feel. What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 03:35:34 pm »

It might be a good move business wise if the models are a good fit for historical gaming as well.  Hence you cover the KoW, WHFB and historical gaming markets all in one go...

Though personally I love the visuals of Game of Thrones, could see some great human armies inspired from it...

or something like this... 


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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 03:49:31 pm »

I really think that Mantic will for the "landsknecht" (? did I spell that right) theme, but what I'm hoping they'll do is go for a more "English civil war" feel. What do you think?

I want landsknecht style. Lots of puffy sleeves! GW has moved away from that style in recent years and the Empire state troops currently look like idiots in pyjamas covered in skulls rather than proper soldiers. I'm not placing high odds on mantic using this style though, they tend to to their own thing.

The Perry's already have English Civil War styled plastic miniatures, mantic also making a range of them would be redundant.

I just want to see a nice simple sprue of human soldiers, like the warhammer plastic state troops that the perrys sculpted back in 5th edition.

If mantic get this right I am literally on the cards to buy at least a thousand models. Empire was my main fantasy army for army, but I just do not like the sculpts GW made for 7th edition (and they probably won't be replaced for another decade or so either).
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 03:55:13 pm »

I would love something with a dark fantasy feel.  Really gritty, maybe a little OTT, but nothing like the Evil Empire of Gaming's SKULZZ everywhere.
Something that is not historical, but could have come out of any of those fanstasy epic series. 
Something which could be either good or evil.

I think of all of those early hero miniatures from the 80's (from many copanies) and think "What is the army like where they come from?" or "what would an army made up entirely of these types be like?"

I'd really say ditch the historical, get far away from that Germanic pseudo-historical stuff and give us something new and really interesting.
They can still be easily used as replacements for that 'other game', guys with spears, guys with crossbows, guys with double handed swords, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 11:22:44 pm »

I reckon the style will be based on Paladins.


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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 08:57:35 pm »

I'd love it to be a desert culture. No one's every really done an Arabian Nights sort of army... Djinn, magic carpets, would be awesome, and nicely different from everything else, and it would fit into an unused culture in WHFB.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 09:51:00 pm »

I'd love it to be a desert culture. No one's every really done an Arabian Nights sort of army... Djinn, magic carpets, would be awesome, and nicely different from everything else, and it would fit into an unused culture in WHFB.

Warmaster had that, looked pretty cool. I think it was called Arabi or something close to that.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 10:51:53 pm »

it did indeed Smiley Araby. But that's warmaster, and after specialist games were put out in the cold, so they never really made it into the hobby. There is a lovely Araby army in the Monsters and Mercenaries collector's guide: http://www.justinhillauthor.com/fragilearmytransportbag/sultan%20marhaba%27s%20araby%20army.htm
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 08:36:51 pm »

Well I won't say what I expect, but I'll write down the types I'd love to see:

Samurai Human Army
Arabian Human Army
Celts/Wildmen Human Army
Atlantean Humans (With Fishmen and sea monster allies)

All four armies have potential and of the four of them only Wildmen/Celts have been done a lot. Samurai, Arabians and Atlanteans haven't been done very often in wargaming and have the ability to be unique.

Samurai based armies have a lot of Asian creatures, a lot of Japanese culture and Shinobi as possibilties.
Arabians have such things as Camel Riders, Elephants, Djinn and the like as possibilities
Wildmen and Celts have a lot of different types of troops and creatures from all across European cultures as possibilities
Atlanteans would be pretty unique and flexible in design, plus the aforementioned fishmen and sea monsters as possibilitles
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 01:10:48 pm »

I always thought the Elves had an Atlantean feel to them in terms of their intricate armour and the swirling pattern of the  spear shafts.

Of course, there's also the "Sea Horse" thing with the Drakon's, so they've already got a water-based mount  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 11:44:52 pm »

Another take on an Atlantean theme could perhaps be something darker...

When I think fishmen my mind turns to Lovecraft, a human army in the service of some eldritch abomination might be interesting...

Cultist infantry and cavalry supported by deep one-esque fishmen and ancient horrors from the depths of the sea could be interesting and might appeal to horror RPG fans as well as wargamers.


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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 07:04:12 am »

then the old (3rd ed) WHFB Slann might appeal, they ran short of warriors so captured humans, nuetered and lobotomised them and sent them forth as slave troops. always thought that was quite cool!
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 08:17:43 pm »

Something alike the landsknechts is interesting.
But how about mixing up the style of the troops during the 5th century (in the anglo-saxonian)
Imagine a roman legionary with sandals and a rifle! You can add Durids as mages, chariots (I love them!) and catapults shooting bombs!
It is a bit fantasy, yes. But it would be unique.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2011, 09:58:10 pm »

At the Open Day, I suggested something similar to the Vikings from the movie Pathfinder for an evil human race.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 02:22:31 am »

Vikings would be brilliant. Although a few other companies do plastic viking miniatures I would like to see mantics spin on them. What kind of war machines would they have?

Would be cool lo have a 'raping and pillaging' scenario with a few of these babies docked at the table edge:


A few houses/hovels/huts scattered around the table and you could be onto a winner!
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